
The following is an e-mail exchange I recently had with a much younger guy I dated for a few weeks in the fall. Tailfeather, take note: he is Colombian, and he too turned out to be an ass. DISCLAIMER: I am sure many, many Colombian men are very decent and straightforward people, and don’t play mindgames. Tailfeather and I just happened to meet two who don’t fit that bill (I think, still waiting for Chapter Three from Tailfeather).
Some background: a close friend of mine was on Lavalife and went out with this guy once but he was two inches shorter than her (he lied and claimed he was 5′8, he was lucky if he was 5′5), so she set us up at a dinner party at her house, thinking I would like him because he was hot and very intelligent and I am shorter than her. And he was.
But then, after we fooled around a couple of times and he was after me to get more intimately involved, my friend noticed he was still trolling for chicks on Lavalife. Still really hurting and distrustful from the end of my marriage, I called him on it and got told I was a psycho. He then he gave me some bullshit excuse that he wasn’t on Lavalife, but his roommate had set up the computer so that Lavalife was the home page and it automatically signed him in every time he went online. The “psycho” comment was it for me, and I shut it down immediately. I hadn’t heard from him again (he is lying when he says he tried to contact me before; he hadn’t) until a few days ago. Here is the ridiculous exchange:
I just wanted to see how you’re doing. I also wanted to let you know that I was accepted to law school, and so will start this Fall. If you stop being a little stubborn and decide to go for a tea/coffee or even lunch, I’d really like that. Regardless of anything, we used to have very interesting conversations all the time.
Look forward to your answer.
Me: Glad to hear you got into law school. Congratulations. As for lunch, thanks but no thanks. Good luck to you.
Douche: You’re really stubborn. This is exactly the way we said we were not going to have things regardless of what would happen. I thought friendship was the main thing.
Anyways Ms. Stubborn, I hope I’ll bump into you sometime soon at least to have the chance to say hello. If by any chance you decide that I am actually right, I’ll be very happy to hear from you and go for a really sincere friendly coffee.
Me (blood boiling): It is not a matter of being stubborn. I surround myself with people I trust. You were dishonest about a couple of things and then told me I was a psycho for calling you on it, and it wasn’t appreciated. I don’t have time in my life for people who disrespect me, and I am dating a couple of people right now who treat me with respect.
So, again, congratulations, but please don’t contact me again. I’m really not interested in a friendship and find it odd that I am now being accused of irrational “stubbornness” many months after I last saw or heard from you.
Douche:
Ok, I understand. Thanks for getting back to me though.
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Now what really burns me about this exchange — and pardon the wonky fonts in this post, WordPress does not make it easy to go in and out of fonts — is the notion that I am just being “stubborn” and that I will see he is right. What a goddamned patronizing, condescending, sexist fucking tool.
That is all.
June 15, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I think we all know what I have to say about this.
June 15, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Even hot boys are gross and stupid?
June 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Extra gross and stupid.
June 15, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Yuk, what a distasteful guy. Yet another reinforcement for my solitary hermit-esque lifestyle.
June 15, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I bet he was mom’s little darling growing up. I know plenty of dudes like this…I think it has a lot to do with upbringing. What a cock.
June 15, 2008 at 7:58 pm
::EYE ROLL::
June 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I’ve been listening to Hole all weekend and being bitter and generally disappointed with life. This works for that.
Trixie, I salute you. Is it wrong that I hope you slept with him, and it was fun?
June 15, 2008 at 8:57 pm
“I want to be the girl with the most cake.”
June 15, 2008 at 8:57 pm
“Some day, you will ache like I ache.”
June 15, 2008 at 9:23 pm
He just wanted you to know he is going to law school OMG. Wow. Tell him you’ll give him a quarter to go w/his law degree. Put the two together and BAM! – you can buy a piece of gum.
I hate short men and lawyers. He never stood a chance.
June 15, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Short men are, in general, complete assholes. They are pissed they are short and try to compensate in other areas.
DISCLAIMER: I apologize to any short men reading this right now who are in fact very kind and decent men.
June 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Oh, now Trix, are you sure you don’t want to rehook up with all that!?? I mean, he SOUNDS like such a catch and all.
/sarcasm
June 15, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Oh my, law school, how shall you ever contain yourself?!
The only short man who hasn’t pissed me off is my papa. And no, please don’t analyse that.
June 16, 2008 at 12:36 am
Trixie, I see that you apologized to all the decent short men.
You failed to apologize to the Jezeteens.
June 16, 2008 at 2:03 am
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June 16, 2008 at 2:12 am
Wow; you need to relax a bit. I didn’t see anything in those e-mails that pigeonholed him as a “patronizing, condescending, sexist fucking tool.”
I think you may have overreacted by including him in your public, online forum.
June 16, 2008 at 9:34 am
David: Um, yeah. Maybe *YOU* didn’t see where this was sexist or patronizing, b/c *YOU* are not a woman, so you wouldn’t know sexism if it sat on your fucking face and wiggled around.
He was making ridiculous assumptions about her character -”stubborn”, just b/c she didn’t want to see his likely philandering ass again, and “psycho” b/c she caught him trolling for ass and thought it wasn’t cool. When you’re a woman dealing with men and their wandering peens, if you get the feeling he’s cheating- he probably is, and it’s best to cut all ties and walk away before Mr. Wonderful gives you the Clap. It’s a survival strategy. ANYWAY, calling a woman names b/c she didn’t want to slurp his bullshit down with a bendy straw = partonizing, immature douche.
Oh yeah, Trix is “overreacting” by sharing her dating experience with her friends on her blog? Ok DAD, thanks for dropping by and telling us wimmins how to conduct ourselves online. Without you, we’d be too stupid and clueless to know what to do. Thank you, thank you anonymous internet guru for showing us the LIGHT!
June 16, 2008 at 9:59 am
David: No one knows who I am. He wouldn’t know a blog if it came up and spit in his face, never mind this blog. So what exactly is the problem?
And yes,I found it outrageously condescending and patronizing that some guy who is 13 years younger than me starts lecturing me on being stubborn and being wrong when he was screwing me around and then called me “psycho” for calling him out on it.
He got in touch, I suspect, because he wants something from me. He knows, obviously, what I do for a living and had once mentioned how helpful that might be to him if he got into law school. He’s a user, a cocky little game-player, and a sexist to boot.
So with all due respect, try to see it from my — and not his — perspective. All my male friends were as outraged as me and saw this attempt to resurrect a friendship as exactly what it was.
June 16, 2008 at 10:50 am
David Wylie: Dude, my friends posted two responses to you above and they are both quite detailed. I’m just gonna say shut the fuck up, we don’t care what you think.
Such as.
June 16, 2008 at 11:08 am
You know, I want to laugh at this, because this guy is clearly an ass. But it also really pisses me off. If you had emailed him the things he emailed you, you would be branded as psycho, stalkerish, and crazy. But since he’s the one doing it to you and you’re not engaging with it, suddenly you’re stubborn. Like, he can’t possibly fathom that you might simply not. be. interested. in. him.
Not that you need it, but my advice is to simply stop engaging with him at all. Block his email address.
June 16, 2008 at 11:26 am
Bingo, Baden. I would have indeed been considered needy, stalker-y, crazy, etc., much like, apparently, Tailfeather’s Colombian treated her.
My only regret was that I was not meaner in telling him to piss off. As in: “Who the hell do you think you are calling me stubborn because I have no interest in seeing a user like you? Get over yourself.”
I suspect his Lavalife stable got bored with him. And of course, there will be no further engagement.
June 16, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Wow, bangieb, I can certainly tell you’re not a douche by your comment.
And as far as the other venom filled responses go, take a look in the mirror before criticizing others.
I think you ladies need a day at the spa.
June 16, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Jesus, that’s right — because women just need to go to the spa and chill out when we’re all pissy.
Dude: Sexism 101. Take some courses. Your initial response to this was to take the side of the male and accuse the women of over-reacting. And then telling us all to go to the spa when we took offence.
Respectfully — you, in fact, need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
June 16, 2008 at 12:55 pm
David: Again, rolling your high-and-mighty ass up in here & telling us what to do. What is up with that, man? I don’t blow up your spot by rolling into your BORING-ASS blog and leaving comments telling you what to do. Ya know why? Because I know when to mind my own business and I’m not a condescending prick, that’s why.
And you wanna know what else, bucko? A day at the spa isn’t going to help anything, given that there are so many self-important jerks like you running around trying to put us wimmins in our place. Yeah. Getting a massage isn’t going to reduce the number of sexist assholes roaming around re-enforcing the glass ceiling and generally making our lives a living hell. WAY to miss the point entirely, dude.
Yeah, and like Trix said. Somebody here isn’t entirely self-aware, and I’m pretty sure it’s not one of us…
June 16, 2008 at 1:03 pm
David: “douche”…wow. Your vocabulary, intellect and suggestions are all extraordinary.
Thanks.
June 16, 2008 at 1:37 pm
He’s like Troy from Reality Bites, but with lawyerly pursuits instead of shitty band ones! Sob.
Hello, David. I don’t believe we’ve met. FUCK OFF AND DIE or I’ll hunt you down and beat your sad little pansy ass into a pile even Jesus won’t love. Oh, wait, that kind of thing probably turns you on.
Damn your kind. I hate.
June 16, 2008 at 1:54 pm
All the best folks; have a great day!
June 16, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Awww, how sweet! Looks like somebody didn’t quite know what they were sticking their grubby little paws into, and got waaaay more than they bargained for in return! Tell me, how does that tail feel between your legs? How does it feel to know you can’t hang and got sent packing by a bunch of “ladies”? LOL! This day just keeps getting better & better.
June 16, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I wanted to leave a simple comment. I’m sorry if what I said offended. I’m sorry if I intruded in a private blog. The spa comment was admittedly uncalled for.
I certainly don’t want to appear sexist because I’m far from. I have a wonderful wife and a beautiful daughter.
June 16, 2008 at 2:53 pm
@David: thank you for the apology, I think we can squash all this now.
June 16, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Yes, David, thanks for the apology. I recommend not saying “go the spa” to your wife and daughter at any time when they’re mad about something. That sort of thing can only make a woman madder!
Thanks again.
June 16, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I also reread your initial response to my comment. I must have glossed over it earlier. It was insightful, and I should have realized then that I had been missing some facts about this guy.
June 16, 2008 at 4:53 pm
That comment (32) was directed at trixie. OK; that’s enough said. I should move on to blogs that are more my specialty before I get myself in trouble again!
Sincerely, all the best.
June 16, 2008 at 5:19 pm
David, that’s sweet. It takes a big man to apologize! I appreciate that you didn’t refer to me as Miss Stubborn. I apologize myself for getting hot under the collar.
June 17, 2008 at 11:18 pm
You get points with me for giving your (unpopular) opinion with your face as the avatar David. I think we are enjoying the freedom of response here that we couldn’t get on Jezebel. Back to the box for you, I think a game’s on…
June 19, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Trixie, good for you, don’t even bother responding to him. What an indolent charlatan. Seriously, Oh I got into law school, drop trow for me.now.
Also, way to handle David Ladies, his comments completely pissed me off until I read your fabulous responses.